acer install

4 messages · started by Daniel Thomas on Feb 09, 2020

acer install

From Daniel Thomas · Feb 09, 2020

I’m back on my acer install problem.

I did figure out how to get it to boot and the Lubuntu 19.10 appears to play OK.

Two issues before I proceed:

1. reading on-line the advice (for a newbie such as I) is to stay away from 19.10 and use 18.04 instead – primarily for stability & support. Given I really only want to use it for internet access (searching, streaming, etc) and occasional writing “simple” seems to make sense for me on this machine. Any comments?

2. acer’s Window problem was that its 16 GB drive, which was mostly gobbled up by Win10, did not have enough room to update the OS so I looked to Linux for a “smaller” OS. But on-line articles state that minimum for Ubuntu is 25 GB. One user claimed his version of Ubuntu installed in 16.04 GB and suggested Lubuntu would take less but did not state how much less. Of course, if a version would load leaving enough free, I could remove the automatically installed applications that I don’t plan to use to free up more space but how much more? And, how much free space do I need for system logs, future updates, etc? Another article claimed other Linux versions can install in less than 8 GB but named no names! Any suggestions?


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acer install

From Daniel Thomas · Feb 09, 2020

I’m back on my acer install problem.

I did figure out how to get it to boot and the Lubuntu 19.10 appears to play OK.

Two issues before I proceed:

1. reading on-line the advice (for a newbie such as I) is to stay away from 19.10 and use 18.04 instead – primarily for stability & support. Given I really only want to use it for internet access (searching, streaming, etc) and occasional writing “simple” seems to make sense for me on this machine. Any comments?

2. acer’s Window problem was that its 16 GB drive, which was mostly gobbled up by Win10, did not have enough room to update the OS so I looked to Linux for a “smaller” OS. But on-line articles state that minimum for Ubuntu is 25 GB. One user claimed his version of Ubuntu installed in 16.04 GB and suggested Lubuntu would take less but did not state how much less. Of course, if a version would load leaving enough free, I could remove the automatically installed applications that I don’t plan to use to free up more space but how much more? And, how much free space do I need for system logs, future updates, etc? Another article claimed other Linux versions can install in less than 8 GB but named no names! Any suggestions?


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Re: acer install

From Devi Garcia · Feb 09, 2020

The more “bare” Linux distros they mentioned are more for advanced users as they’d come with no GUI/DE in most cases and if they did come with a come with a DE/GUI the OS itself would be mostly Terminal/CLI based commands.. Lubuntu or Xubuntu should be good for light distros.. also is 
https://www.bodhilinux.com or 
https://www.linuxliteos.com the thing with Linux versus windows is sometimes it requires a lot of legwork(research) to find what you want versus every being out there in common knowledge.. Linux is a vast jungle of knowledge...

On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 12:53 PM Daniel Thomas <danjant@cableone.net> wrote:
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I’m back on my acer install problem.
I did figure out how to get it to boot and the Lubuntu 19.10 appears to play OK.
Two issues before I proceed:

I’m back on my acer install problem.

I did figure out how to get it to boot and the Lubuntu 19.10 appears to play OK.

Two issues before I proceed:

1. reading on-line the advice (for a newbie such as I) is to stay away from 19.10 and use 18.04 instead – primarily for stability & support. Given I really only want to use it for internet access (searching, streaming, etc) and occasional writing “simple” seems to make sense for me on this machine. Any comments?

2. acer’s Window problem was that its 16 GB drive, which was mostly gobbled up by Win10, did not have enough room to update the OS so I looked to Linux for a “smaller” OS. But on-line articles state that minimum for Ubuntu is 25 GB. One user claimed his version of Ubuntu installed in 16.04 GB and suggested Lubuntu would take less but did not state how much less. Of course, if a version would load leaving enough free, I could remove the automatically installed applications that I don’t plan to use to free up more space but how much more? And, how much free space do I need for system logs, future updates, etc? Another article claimed other Linux versions can install in less than 8 GB but named no names! Any suggestions?


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Re: acer install

From Rex Bouwense · Feb 10, 2020

    I would recommend that you install one of the distributions that Devi recommended, either Lubuntu or Xubuntu and I would stay away from the interim releases (18.10, 1904 - which have already reached their End Of Life - and 19.10).  Long Term Support (LTS) releases are supported for 5 years for Ubuntu and for 3 years for any one of Ubuntu "flavors" such as Lubuntu or Xubuntu.  The Interim releases are only supported for 9 months and while they tend to have the cutting edge software they are not as stable as the LTS releases.  Now, here is the rub.  Lubuntu 18.04 was released with Lightweight X-11 Desktop Environment (lxde).  All of the interim releases, including the latest 19.10, have used LXQT desktop environment.  Why does that matter?  There are different default applications and you will have to get used to them when installing the new LTS release (20.04).  No big problem but something that you should be aware of.  If you choose Lubuntu, 19.10 might be a release to start with to get used to everything and then upgrade or do a fresh install of 20.04 when it comes out in April of this year.
    We have installed both Lubuntu and Xubuntu on very small hard drives.  The smallest was 9.1 GB and there was plenty of room to update, create documents, and save photos and music.  Also something else that is relevant, a Linux distribution does not grow when there are updates as a Microsoft Windows does.  If you start with an installation that takes up roughly 5-8 Gbs of space on your hard drive, it is very likely that two years hence that same OS will still be basically the same size.  When it updates it replaces the old code with new code one line at a time.  None of the old code is saved (with the exception of kernels which have to be deleted manually - but a kernel is is only 68 Mbs and it is the guy that starts everything and tells everything else what to do.
    Devi also mentioned Bodhi Linux and Linux Lite OS.  If you are not satisfied with either Lubuntu or Xubuntu, they are excellent choices.  One additional operating system that he did not mention is Trisquel, https://trisquel.info/.  It is composed of entirely free and open source software. 

Rex



On 2/9/20 12:59 PM, Devi Garcia wrote:
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The more “bare” Linux distros they mentioned are
more for advanced users as they’d come with no GUI/DE in most
cases and if they did come with a come with a DE/GUI the OS
The more “bare” Linux distros they mentioned are more for advanced users as they’d come with no GUI/DE in most cases and if they did come with a come with a DE/GUI the OS itself would be mostly Terminal/CLI based commands.. Lubuntu or Xubuntu should be good for light distros.. also is 
https://www.bodhilinux.com or 
https://www.linuxliteos.com the thing with Linux versus windows is sometimes it requires a lot of legwork(research) to find what you want versus every being out there in common knowledge.. Linux is a vast jungle of knowledge...

On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 12:53 PM Daniel Thomas <danjant@cableone.net> wrote:

I’m back on my acer install problem.

I did figure out how to get it to boot and the Lubuntu 19.10 appears to play OK.

Two issues before I proceed:

1. reading on-line the advice (for a newbie such as I) is to stay away from 19.10 and use 18.04 instead – primarily for stability & support. Given I really only want to use it for internet access (searching, streaming, etc) and occasional writing “simple” seems to make sense for me on this machine. Any comments?

2. acer’s Window problem was that its 16 GB drive, which was mostly gobbled up by Win10, did not have enough room to update the OS so I looked to Linux for a “smaller” OS. But on-line articles state that minimum for Ubuntu is 25 GB. One user claimed his version of Ubuntu installed in 16.04 GB and suggested Lubuntu would take less but did not state how much less. Of course, if a version would load leaving enough free, I could remove the automatically installed applications that I don’t plan to use to free up more space but how much more? And, how much free space do I need for system logs, future updates, etc? Another article claimed other Linux versions can install in less than 8 GB but named no names! Any suggestions?


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